Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

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  • Опубликовано: 13 марта 2019
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  • Maaxiim
    Maaxiim  39 минут назад

    My fx 4300 still runs, but I'll upgrade to a 2600 or 3600 depending on their release

    • Marsted Roashmallows
      Marsted Roashmallows  4 часов назад

      I'd like to see this comparison again at $500 with the amd system using a amd gpu. I think that'd be somewhat fair because amd doesn't have competition for the rtx 20 series cards yet.

      • connostyper
        connostyper  7 часов назад

        From me the situation is different. You can built an AMD system with high end motherboard that is cheper than Intel. Then cheap out on cpu for example 2600. AMD motherboards will support 3rd generation ryzen. You can upgrade later if needed.

        • Bud King
          Bud King  9 часов назад

          Anthony, with the money you save buying AMD you can put towards fixing your hair.

          • Crimson Salmadin
            Crimson Salmadin  10 часов назад

            The one thing that AMD has over Intel is the upgradeability of the CPU on current motherboards.

            • Valentin Dimitrov
              Valentin Dimitrov  15 часов назад

              These types of videos are pure gold Linus.. oh and Anthony's build destroyed, I guess he is much more qualified :D

              • Derek Stinson
                Derek Stinson  22 часов назад

                Anthony should have got a second try too.

                • JD Gaming
                  JD Gaming  23 часов назад

                  upgrade the 2600 to a 1700 since you have 15$ more, also currently the 8400 is $199.99

                  • Jasonoid
                    Jasonoid  1 дней назад

                    Hoping to see what Ryzen 3000 does to the CPU market. Bring more competition from Intel? Let's hope so!

                    • The Automaticist
                      The Automaticist  1 дней назад

                      Can you redo this at around $1300 USD (about the value of the computer I built)

                      • Deyvson Moutinho Caliman
                        Deyvson Moutinho Caliman  1 дней назад

                        I don't know how CPU performance are these days, but in Nvidia against AMD when they sell similar performance graphic boards, the AMD ones already come overclocked, they spend more energy and have higher temperatures. So if you overclock Nvidia you can go further, put more load into it, because it's harder to make it overheat. I thought it would be the same with CPUs, but it seems that AMD is really up to par with Intel nowadays, although I would like to see CPU temperatures in those tests, those temperatures should be the same because if Intel had a lower temperature it could be overclocked more.

                        • megadeth22885
                          megadeth22885  1 дней назад

                          wtf is the "amd build" using a nvidia GPU?.. so this is just a CPU comparison then?

                          • Chivokroy
                            Chivokroy  1 дней назад

                            Science done right: "It certainly wasn't what we were expecting, but we're going with it."

                            • Jigsaw
                              Jigsaw  1 дней назад

                              Send me a gaming laptop and I'll draw an animal for you Linus.

                              • DJJEZ1983
                                DJJEZ1983  2 дней назад

                                Amd is for broke peasants. Change my mind

                                • مقاطع مترجمة
                                  مقاطع مترجمة  2 дней назад

                                  Does he change the video Title !! weird

                                  • Nick Schafer
                                    Nick Schafer  2 дней назад

                                    I feel they cheated on AMD here. They adjusted the intel specs for something that can't be overclocked(While improving specs and saving cost) when in the first place of the video that one of their requirements was it HAD to be an overclockable CPU.

                                    • Suleman Zaidi
                                      Suleman Zaidi  2 дней назад

                                      isn't the i3-8350k better than the i5-8400? Much higher base clock, even when the 8400 goes into turbo and plus its cheaper

                                      • UgLiest_handsome
                                        UgLiest_handsome  2 дней назад

                                        $1250 budget plz

                                        • Nathan Gamble
                                          Nathan Gamble  2 дней назад

                                          Well, they've got to do the same with AMD vs nVidia now.

                                          • haloguy32375
                                            haloguy32375  2 дней назад

                                            the real question is, why cant linus hold expensive equipment without dropping it

                                            • Robert Therrien
                                              Robert Therrien  2 дней назад

                                              When GPU are $1000. Then AMD processors are the best.

                                              • Paul Gariepy
                                                Paul Gariepy  2 дней назад

                                                Linus you should do a AMD vs Intel reliability / compatibility shootout. One of the reasons I left AMD back in the Athlon days was the chipsets were buggy and the USB ports always seemed to have issues vs the Intel platforms. AKA which platform is more stable especially when we talk about AMD winning with overclocking.

                                                • Fredrik Lindlöf
                                                  Fredrik Lindlöf  2 дней назад

                                                  Something not mentioned in the video is value over time, I.E upgradability. Would love to see a video where they make approximations of each parts viable lifetime, and show plausible current and future upgradepaths and what the value preposition becomes then.

                                                  • fmalone03
                                                    fmalone03  2 дней назад

                                                    AMD also has a upgrade path. Intel regularly dumps support for current chipsets when they release a new CPU even though the performance gains are minimal and after a couple of years if you are looking for upgrades you will more than likely have to change your motherboard and CPU at once on Intel.

                                                    • Anders Larsson
                                                      Anders Larsson  2 дней назад

                                                      If it’s AMD vs Intel you have to go with an AMD GPU ;)

                                                      • Pure Gameplay
                                                        Pure Gameplay  2 дней назад

                                                        LOL american prices are seriously FUCKED. In Canada, I3 8350k is $320+ and the ryzen 5 2600 is $230, Come to Canada and you'll definitely see the price to performance that AMD has over swagtel. Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x shit all over the I3 and cost 30% less, its literally a no brainer. The real title of this video should be, "Why does everyone like to be shit on by Intel"

                                                        • Pure Gameplay
                                                          Pure Gameplay  2 дней назад

                                                          Its not the budget option, is the logical option. Thats like saying every bag other than gucci is just a budget bag, when in reality some shit is just overpriced swag trash.

                                                          • DAVID L CARTER
                                                            DAVID L CARTER  2 дней назад

                                                            I knew big man would win this challenge,,, can you guys do the same thing with a 5 gpu mining rig?? THAT WOULD BE COOL

                                                            • DAVID L CARTER
                                                              DAVID L CARTER  2 дней назад

                                                              I have no reason to change and I am sticking with AMD

                                                              • DAVID L CARTER
                                                                DAVID L CARTER  2 дней назад

                                                                llinus AMD is for smart people like me that want the best for my money ,,I build miners and I am glad I bought the right RX590 NITRO cards for my miners and they work great and I see Nvidia trying to keep up with the 200 to 250 usd cards and I am glad to see the MH/z clock listings recently

                                                                • Manuel Jurado
                                                                  Manuel Jurado  2 дней назад

                                                                  One of your best video ever!: Great content, fantastic presentation and awesome execution.
                                                                  Please do this comparison for at least a couple of budgets more.

                                                                  • Fran
                                                                    Fran  2 дней назад

                                                                    6:32
                                                                    You are using liquid cooling, which wasn't in none of the lists 🤦

                                                                    • AndreasRiborg
                                                                      AndreasRiborg  2 дней назад

                                                                      I know right, lets see the overclocking in the actual budget case

                                                                  • Ashley Perkins
                                                                    Ashley Perkins  2 дней назад

                                                                    so he cheated by putting a non amd graphics card in the amd build....

                                                                    • SanityDragon
                                                                      SanityDragon  3 дней назад

                                                                      Productivity would also be interesting as i'm guessing the intel chip would win in premiere (quicksync) but the Ryzen chip would smash rendering? Nice video; worth a part 2 for productivity and then an all round balance?

                                                                      • Elbert Joseph Layco
                                                                        Elbert Joseph Layco  3 дней назад

                                                                        For $750, i see there's a little bit of value difference. Will that increase/decrease based on the cost range like at $500 or even $1000?

                                                                        • furyp100
                                                                          furyp100  3 дней назад

                                                                          I think it would be more reasonable to just compare motherboard and cpu prices since cases, psu, ram, and gpu doesn't matter for amd vs intel comparisons

                                                                          • Сука Блять
                                                                            Сука Блять  3 дней назад

                                                                            So basically AMD is better no matter how you try to spin it. Just Linus is an intel-shill and can’t bring himself to outright admit that fact.

                                                                            • roddybrod
                                                                              roddybrod  3 дней назад

                                                                              Really loved this video! I've got plenty of friends making commitments to PC Gaming and this is a great introduction to budgeting their systems out! I really would have wished that you mentioned something about an i7's value proposition for this budget as I feel like many people automatically jump to them.

                                                                              • Matthew Langley
                                                                                Matthew Langley  3 дней назад

                                                                                Honestly AMD (right now the 2700x) at the just below top end gaming machine is the top pick IMHO. Especially if you're looking at 1440p or greater where the advantages of a 9700k or 9900k diminish greatly do to being GPU bound, and what does that cheaper price on the AMD get you? A serious upgrade to GPU. For example the 2700x is regularly $310, but it also goes down quite a bit by $10-$20 less, even more commonly you can get some killer combo deals on newegg with a great MB or RAM and get anywhere from $20-$50 off. Likewise you get a pretty good stock cooler with it, often compared to say a $40-$50 aftermarket cooler. The 9700k is $420 and no cooler. all this plus cheaper motherboard options (that you can also get at some great deals or combo deals) typically means you can net about $150-$200 savings going 2700x and the 9700k is only a minimal amount better on CPU bound games, usually at 1080p, and usually no faster at 1440p or greater. Likewise multicore is a toss up between the two, 16 vs 8 threads in the AMD camp nets you some wins in some cases, while the 9700k with equal cores and higher clockspeeds nets you in some others. That $200 or so dollars will add a massive amount to your gaming results if applied either towards a GPU, a good monitor, or honestly to something else. Again 1440p you lost a couple FPS (and maybe none at all) but getter more FPS in GPU, higher refresh or better image quality in a better monitor, or maybe something like a better keyboard, mouse, headset, better chair, desk, faster drives, more high speed drives so you install less etc.


                                                                                Honestly unless you are either beyond having a budget at all (even if you have deep pockets) or you just need to get to that 240 fps in 1080p games (say an aspiring FPS pro or something) it just doesn't make sense, the price difference for the limited gain is just too much. There are countless ways to improve your gaming experience even if you've been dropping it like it's hot on components. Even then you can take that extra money that won't really benefit you much and spend them on games or software if nothing else. My wife and I got a set of 1080 tis for our gaming rigs last year (and for context I'm running a caselabs case so don't mind spending extra money for the quality)... this year when we upgrade CPU we could have dropped more on a 9700k or even a 9900k, but I just couldn't justify it. It really just doesn't add up unless we basically had an almost unlimited budget for our rigs and all of our gaming equipment and games.


                                                                                Just my opinion though.

                                                                                • Gerrard Harvey
                                                                                  Gerrard Harvey  3 дней назад

                                                                                  +Linus random question: why do I get the Video_scheduler_internal_error BSOD and how do I fix it? After all I tried it appears it is related to graphics card driver or hardware but I'm not sure which. I don't have a second gfx card to test. I do know that with the gfx driver completely removed using DDU, it doesn't crash. But as soon as Windows update auto installs the driver, it crashes.

                                                                                  • Nazar Andriyuk
                                                                                    Nazar Andriyuk  3 дней назад

                                                                                    1500 price point

                                                                                    • EagleClaw1842
                                                                                      EagleClaw1842  3 дней назад

                                                                                      i feel bad for that chair

                                                                                      • Cbeddoe19
                                                                                        Cbeddoe19  3 дней назад

                                                                                        Because its way cheaper and you can upgrade old motherboards with new processors.
                                                                                        Or you can buy older products for dirt friggin cheap. That little performance penalty isn't worth 2-3x the money for most people

                                                                                        • Bryce Stewart
                                                                                          Bryce Stewart  3 дней назад

                                                                                          $750 for a gaming rig, don't thing so. A grand or two for sure!!!

                                                                                          • LittleDooKidle
                                                                                            LittleDooKidle  3 дней назад

                                                                                            Poor people? Im still using the FX 8350

                                                                                            • Nicholas Ebbing
                                                                                              Nicholas Ebbing  3 дней назад

                                                                                              I still remember Luke, man. I do like the new people though.

                                                                                              • Unicorn Diarrhea
                                                                                                Unicorn Diarrhea  3 дней назад

                                                                                                More videos with Anthony! I like that guy.