Stephen A. and Ray Allen debate if Heat and Celtics were rivals in 2012-13 | First Take | ESPN

  • Опубликовано: 29 марта 2018
  • First Take's Stephen A. Smith and Ray Allen debate if the Miami Heat and Boston Celtics were rivals in the 2012-13 season, when Allen joined the Heat.

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  • Luciano Simmons
    Luciano Simmons  19 часов назад

    As a competitor and a man that knows how shit really goes... If KG and PP REALLY didn't want Ray to go... They needed only say to Ainge "Nah bruh... Ray ain't going" espeicailyy with them big dark eyes and that 7 ft skin and purple frame staring at you. Those 2 had that kinda pull. Front office wouldn't DARE make moves like that without consulting those 2. If no one even ate pasta (see KG infamous first rule story) without KGs nod, they aren't trading Ray without it. Or Pierce who's a Celtics legend up there with Parish and Larry. THAT's why Ray ignored their calls... He knew they knew and ok'd it. They already said F him... Why call them back and pretend they didn't. C'mon man... We grownt. Don't play the little middle man politico game.

    • Javier Hernandez
      Javier Hernandez  3 недель назад

      love ray allen

      • Super Vegito
        Super Vegito  3 месяцев назад

        Knicks vs Heat was the greatest rivalry

        • Elann Suvat
          Elann Suvat  6 месяцев назад

          This is more like Danny Ainge and management screwed Ray Allen, didn't appreciate his value, and Ray was naturally upset about it. He took the best option, which was Miami Heat. And who wouldn't go with Miami after Boston just gave him a big "FU"? The other guys on Boston didn't understand that and took it personal, as if Ray left them. It's a triangle. Blame management.

          • VINCENT V
            VINCENT V  9 месяцев назад

            stephen A. the knicks are irrelevant since the late 90's. BOOOOOOM!!!!

            • Brian Rodriguez
              Brian Rodriguez  9 месяцев назад

              At that time, the san Antonio spurs.

              • Titanium PVP
                Titanium PVP  10 месяцев назад

                Bottom line Ray is one of the best shooters this planet has ever seen and he was a big part of all the chips he won. O and he probably made the most clutch shot in NBA history

                • Luis Gochoco
                  Luis Gochoco  10 месяцев назад

                  we all know how Danny and Boston management treat players

                  • dunde8889 __
                    dunde8889 __  11 месяцев назад

                    Ray allen is stupid - how can he say that the heat and lebron were not rivals. That means he was a traitor wearing green.

                    • Christina Pinnock
                      Christina Pinnock  12 месяцев назад

                      I met ray allen at a basketball game

                      • Luck Fove
                        Luck Fove  1 лет назад

                        The Knicks were better than Celtics at that time

                        • Billson Satake
                          Billson Satake  1 лет назад

                          He won in Miami. So, what? Just leave Ray alone. He knows what best for him.

                          KG's still salty about it. What a gurl.

                          • Terry Bello Burton
                            Terry Bello Burton  1 лет назад

                            Dumb shit and SAS is a real sellout to his people....sad sad

                            • Francis Mejia
                              Francis Mejia  1 лет назад

                              unbelievable that doc rivers put the ultimatum for ray allen to accept a bs contract. He then goes to the clippers and pays his son a borderline franchise player contract. SMH Doc is so overrated.

                              • Simon McQuinn
                                Simon McQuinn  1 лет назад

                                Ray Allen one of the most intellectual people I’ve ever listened too. Not a bad cell in his body

                                • Umberto Sanchez
                                  Umberto Sanchez  1 лет назад

                                  I still laugh at how they had 3 HOF and a All star PG and Kobe still beat them lol ik someone's going to say Gasol but he averaged 16 n 8 tbh it's not impressive but K love averaged 20 n 10 and ppl yell lebron has no help

                                  • Reliablethreat
                                    Reliablethreat  1 лет назад

                                    The Heat and the Celtics WERE rivals in those years! That is the main reason why the Celtics got mad at Ray. He joined the "enemy" in their eyes. Ray did nothing wrong though! He's handled all the negativity from his former Celtic teammates like a true professional. Ray Allen is the man.

                                    • Joe Carroll
                                      Joe Carroll  1 лет назад

                                      Jesus Shuttlesworth, is still cold blooded. That's messed up how he did denzel tho.

                                      • Linkz GP
                                        Linkz GP  1 лет назад

                                        Ray Allen sound like a deadbeat dad tryna beat the case.

                                        • devonte taylor
                                          devonte taylor  1 лет назад

                                          Ray Allen a real tf .💪🏾💪🏾how they gone come at him like that

                                          • ASMR CARBON
                                            ASMR CARBON  1 лет назад

                                            Threat is different from a rival.. Let's go back to English class smfh.

                                            • Joey Sparks
                                              Joey Sparks  1 лет назад

                                              They mad at Ray because he made it to the Heat. The rest of them got traded to shit teams.

                                              Don't blame Ray, blame Danny boy lol.

                                              • Carlo Luis Coronado
                                                Carlo Luis Coronado  1 лет назад

                                                I think the Pacers is the main rival of the Heat that time because it was so intense that every year, players get physical to one another and altercation gets heated even in the regular season.

                                                • beterbutz
                                                  beterbutz  1 лет назад

                                                  But Miami paid him less than that Celtic deal......

                                                  • JCR1992
                                                    JCR1992  1 лет назад

                                                    I love Ray but come on Boston and Miami were rivals at that time. 2008 LeBron loses to them and 2010 Wade and LeBron lose to them. They team up together to beat Boston and then they face them in 2011 and 2012 and that 2012 series was a tough 7 game series. You can't say they weren't rivals then. They probably disliked each other more than any other teams then.

                                                    • Ross Best
                                                      Ross Best  1 лет назад

                                                      Ray Allen is a Liar. He can't even straight answer simple questions or say what REALLY happened.

                                                      • Samson Pagunsan
                                                        Samson Pagunsan  1 лет назад

                                                        Ray has made the right decision. Why should others make an issue of that? The main goal of an NBA player is to win a championship.

                                                        • Y0urthirdleg
                                                          Y0urthirdleg  1 лет назад

                                                          Goddamn all Stephen a smith does is scream. Like can you talk in a normal tone. Jesus christ

                                                          • dark41969
                                                            dark41969  1 лет назад

                                                            Ray is telling it like it is. Ray's situation is not like cupcake Durant & okc & warriors. Ray is a true gentleman w/the k.g. celtics situation.

                                                            • Kwame Agyapong
                                                              Kwame Agyapong  1 лет назад

                                                              There is no excuse Ray, we watched and loved you on the court but Paul has every reason to be upset that he didn't know you were leaving before the ESPN family did

                                                              • Chris Broussard
                                                                Chris Broussard  1 лет назад

                                                                Didn't the rest of the guys leave Boston a year later?

                                                                • t100base
                                                                  t100base  1 лет назад

                                                                  ray felt offended, they treated kg pierce way better than him. all and all i think him pierce and garnett should had met up and spoke about it. maybe they weren't that close in boston

                                                                  • t100base
                                                                    t100base  1 лет назад

                                                                    i think ray allen is in denial. lebron dwade were rivals for a fact.

                                                                    • Raphael Nelson
                                                                      Raphael Nelson  1 лет назад

                                                                      Smh Stephen a smith is a clown like a literal puppet

                                                                      • Phenm Galupo
                                                                        Phenm Galupo  1 лет назад

                                                                        Stephen A your mouth is gar gar 😂

                                                                        • Ant live
                                                                          Ant live  1 лет назад

                                                                          Biggups to Jesus shuttlesworth

                                                                          • MasterChee7
                                                                            MasterChee7  1 лет назад

                                                                            These clown ass "brothers" went on national tv and hated on another black man,but the owners and gms do this shit everyday,they dont show loyalty,but they dont say shit to massa,foh!!!!

                                                                            • ronald0c8
                                                                              ronald0c8  1 лет назад

                                                                              The Heats rival back then were the Bulls.

                                                                              • Derrick Brown
                                                                                Derrick Brown  1 лет назад

                                                                                Ray is full of s*** smh

                                                                                • gdc615
                                                                                  gdc615  1 лет назад

                                                                                  After seeing the way this dude ainge did i t there no doubt in my mind ray is telling the truth. Ainge is a snake and is not loyal to anyone

                                                                                  • Jay Tamar
                                                                                    Jay Tamar  1 лет назад

                                                                                    Stephen A. Reaching for bs.

                                                                                    • Mark Cianfarani
                                                                                      Mark Cianfarani  1 лет назад

                                                                                      Danny ainge has a job to can not get sentimental for any player..his to do what's best for the Boston celtics..thats the reason..the Celtics have such a bright future. he's the boss. Allen. made a decision..plain n simple. get over it. . Celtics offered Allen more money then the hear did also..end of story..ainge..has nothing to feel guilty about here..yes. ainge wants rings...thats why we play the game isn't it???. grow the fuck up people. you sound like a bunch of yentas..from long island
                                                                                      .sitting in a sewing circle..

                                                                                      • Mark Cianfarani
                                                                                        Mark Cianfarani  1 лет назад

                                                                                        I lived in ct..50 years. now in vegas..met ray..many times. use to go to gamble pavilion. many times. to shoot around

                                                                                        • Harry F
                                                                                          Harry F  1 лет назад

                                                                                          What is great about this is that Ray revealed that his original negotiations with Boston didn't work out so he looked elsewhere and that's when the Heat popped up. Kevin Durant had no intention of resigning and had his mind set on the 73-9 team, could have gone to any other team and i would have not been bringing him up. What's fishy is that Ray Allen would have been paid less in Miami than he would have in Boston so....... I believe he's lying.

                                                                                          • If it's in the Word Then it's in the word

                                                                                            Garnett and the rest of them just choose to be bitter old men

                                                                                            • crewcutter2030
                                                                                              crewcutter2030  1 лет назад

                                                                                              Well, he got a ring in miami, so he did the right choice. If the company you worked in for 10 years is not willing to pay you as much as some other company to keep you, just means they dont want you anymore.

                                                                                              • Benjamin TSANG
                                                                                                Benjamin TSANG  1 лет назад

                                                                                                Ray allen looks like he's about to cry the whole time

                                                                                                • Deven Green
                                                                                                  Deven Green  1 лет назад

                                                                                                  At least he didn't pull a KD😂