Stephen A. and Ray Allen debate if Heat and Celtics were rivals in 2012-13 | First Take | ESPN

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  • Опубликовано: 29 марта 2018
  • First Take's Stephen A. Smith and Ray Allen debate if the Miami Heat and Boston Celtics were rivals in the 2012-13 season, when Allen joined the Heat.

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  • Elann Suvat
    Elann Suvat  3 месяцев назад

    This is more like Danny Ainge and management screwed Ray Allen, didn't appreciate his value, and Ray was naturally upset about it. He took the best option, which was Miami Heat. And who wouldn't go with Miami after Boston just gave him a big "FU"? The other guys on Boston didn't understand that and took it personal, as if Ray left them. It's a triangle. Blame management.

    • VINCENT V
      VINCENT V  6 месяцев назад

      stephen A. the knicks are irrelevant since the late 90's. BOOOOOOM!!!!

      • Brian Rodriguez
        Brian Rodriguez  6 месяцев назад

        At that time, the san Antonio spurs.

        • Titanium PVP
          Titanium PVP  7 месяцев назад

          Bottom line Ray is one of the best shooters this planet has ever seen and he was a big part of all the chips he won. O and he probably made the most clutch shot in NBA history

          • Luis Gochoco
            Luis Gochoco  7 месяцев назад

            we all know how Danny and Boston management treat players

            • dunde8889 __
              dunde8889 __  8 месяцев назад

              Ray allen is stupid - how can he say that the heat and lebron were not rivals. That means he was a traitor wearing green.

              • Christina Pinnock
                Christina Pinnock  9 месяцев назад

                I met ray allen at a basketball game

                • Luck Fove
                  Luck Fove  9 месяцев назад

                  The Knicks were better than Celtics at that time

                  • Billson Satake
                    Billson Satake  9 месяцев назад

                    He won in Miami. So, what? Just leave Ray alone. He knows what best for him.

                    KG's still salty about it. What a gurl.

                    • Terry Bello Burton
                      Terry Bello Burton  9 месяцев назад

                      Dumb shit and SAS is a real sellout to his people....sad sad

                      • Francis Mejia
                        Francis Mejia  10 месяцев назад

                        unbelievable that doc rivers put the ultimatum for ray allen to accept a bs contract. He then goes to the clippers and pays his son a borderline franchise player contract. SMH Doc is so overrated.

                        • Simon McQuinn
                          Simon McQuinn  10 месяцев назад

                          Ray Allen one of the most intellectual people I’ve ever listened too. Not a bad cell in his body

                          • Umberto Sanchez
                            Umberto Sanchez  10 месяцев назад

                            I still laugh at how they had 3 HOF and a All star PG and Kobe still beat them lol ik someone's going to say Gasol but he averaged 16 n 8 tbh it's not impressive but K love averaged 20 n 10 and ppl yell lebron has no help

                            • Reliablethreat
                              Reliablethreat  10 месяцев назад

                              The Heat and the Celtics WERE rivals in those years! That is the main reason why the Celtics got mad at Ray. He joined the "enemy" in their eyes. Ray did nothing wrong though! He's handled all the negativity from his former Celtic teammates like a true professional. Ray Allen is the man.

                              • Joe Carroll
                                Joe Carroll  10 месяцев назад

                                Jesus Shuttlesworth, is still cold blooded. That's messed up how he did denzel tho.

                                • Linkz GP
                                  Linkz GP  10 месяцев назад

                                  Ray Allen sound like a deadbeat dad tryna beat the case.

                                  • devonte taylor
                                    devonte taylor  10 месяцев назад

                                    Ray Allen a real tf .💪🏾💪🏾how they gone come at him like that

                                    • ASMR CARBON
                                      ASMR CARBON  10 месяцев назад

                                      Threat is different from a rival.. Let's go back to English class smfh.

                                      • Joey Sparks
                                        Joey Sparks  10 месяцев назад

                                        They mad at Ray because he made it to the Heat. The rest of them got traded to shit teams.

                                        Don't blame Ray, blame Danny boy lol.

                                        • Carlo Coronado
                                          Carlo Coronado  10 месяцев назад

                                          I think the Pacers is the main rival of the Heat that time because it was so intense that every year, players get physical to one another and altercation gets heated even in the regular season.

                                          • beterbutz
                                            beterbutz  10 месяцев назад

                                            But Miami paid him less than that Celtic deal......

                                            • JCR1992
                                              JCR1992  10 месяцев назад

                                              I love Ray but come on Boston and Miami were rivals at that time. 2008 LeBron loses to them and 2010 Wade and LeBron lose to them. They team up together to beat Boston and then they face them in 2011 and 2012 and that 2012 series was a tough 7 game series. You can't say they weren't rivals then. They probably disliked each other more than any other teams then.

                                              • Ross Best
                                                Ross Best  11 месяцев назад

                                                Ray Allen is a Liar. He can't even straight answer simple questions or say what REALLY happened.

                                                • Samson Pagunsan
                                                  Samson Pagunsan  11 месяцев назад

                                                  Ray has made the right decision. Why should others make an issue of that? The main goal of an NBA player is to win a championship.

                                                  • Y0urthirdleg
                                                    Y0urthirdleg  11 месяцев назад

                                                    Goddamn all Stephen a smith does is scream. Like can you talk in a normal tone. Jesus christ

                                                    • dark41969
                                                      dark41969  12 месяцев назад

                                                      Ray is telling it like it is. Ray's situation is not like cupcake Durant & okc & warriors. Ray is a true gentleman w/the k.g. celtics situation.

                                                      • Kwame Agyapong
                                                        Kwame Agyapong  12 месяцев назад

                                                        There is no excuse Ray, we watched and loved you on the court but Paul has every reason to be upset that he didn't know you were leaving before the ESPN family did

                                                        • Tyler Shain Fitness
                                                          Tyler Shain Fitness  12 месяцев назад

                                                          Didn't the rest of the guys leave Boston a year later?

                                                          • t100base
                                                            t100base  1 лет назад

                                                            ray felt offended, they treated kg pierce way better than him. all and all i think him pierce and garnett should had met up and spoke about it. maybe they weren't that close in boston

                                                            • t100base
                                                              t100base  1 лет назад

                                                              i think ray allen is in denial. lebron dwade were rivals for a fact.

                                                              • Raphael Nelson
                                                                Raphael Nelson  1 лет назад

                                                                Smh Stephen a smith is a clown like a literal puppet

                                                                • Phenm Galupo
                                                                  Phenm Galupo  1 лет назад

                                                                  Stephen A your mouth is gar gar 😂

                                                                  • Ant live
                                                                    Ant live  1 лет назад

                                                                    Biggups to Jesus shuttlesworth

                                                                    • MasterChee7
                                                                      MasterChee7  1 лет назад

                                                                      These clown ass "brothers" went on national tv and hated on another black man,but the owners and gms do this shit everyday,they dont show loyalty,but they dont say shit to massa,foh!!!!

                                                                      • ronald0c8
                                                                        ronald0c8  1 лет назад

                                                                        The Heats rival back then were the Bulls.

                                                                        • Derrick Brown
                                                                          Derrick Brown  1 лет назад

                                                                          Ray is full of s*** smh

                                                                          • gdc615
                                                                            gdc615  1 лет назад

                                                                            After seeing the way this dude ainge did i t there no doubt in my mind ray is telling the truth. Ainge is a snake and is not loyal to anyone

                                                                            • Jay Tamar
                                                                              Jay Tamar  1 лет назад

                                                                              Stephen A. Reaching for bs.

                                                                              • Mark Cianfarani
                                                                                Mark Cianfarani  1 лет назад

                                                                                Danny ainge has a job to do..you can not get sentimental for any player..his job..is to do what's best for the Boston celtics..thats it..ainge..is the reason..the Celtics have such a bright future. he's the boss. Allen. made a decision..plain n simple. get over it. . Celtics offered Allen more money then the hear did also..end of story..ainge..has nothing to feel guilty about here..yes. ainge wants rings...thats why we play the game isn't it???. grow the fuck up people. you sound like a bunch of yentas..from long island
                                                                                .sitting in a sewing circle..

                                                                                • Mark Cianfarani
                                                                                  Mark Cianfarani  1 лет назад

                                                                                  I lived in ct..50 years. now in vegas..met ray..many times. use to go to gamble pavilion. many times. to shoot around

                                                                                  • Harry F
                                                                                    Harry F  1 лет назад

                                                                                    What is great about this is that Ray revealed that his original negotiations with Boston didn't work out so he looked elsewhere and that's when the Heat popped up. Kevin Durant had no intention of resigning and had his mind set on the 73-9 team, could have gone to any other team and i would have not been bringing him up. What's fishy is that Ray Allen would have been paid less in Miami than he would have in Boston so....... I believe he's lying.

                                                                                    • If it's in the Word Then it's in the word

                                                                                      Garnett and the rest of them just choose to be bitter old men

                                                                                      • crewcutter2030
                                                                                        crewcutter2030  1 лет назад

                                                                                        Well, he got a ring in miami, so he did the right choice. If the company you worked in for 10 years is not willing to pay you as much as some other company to keep you, just means they dont want you anymore.

                                                                                        • Benjamin TSANG
                                                                                          Benjamin TSANG  1 лет назад

                                                                                          Ray allen looks like he's about to cry the whole time

                                                                                          • Deven Green
                                                                                            Deven Green  1 лет назад

                                                                                            At least he didn't pull a KD😂

                                                                                            • Scott Schade
                                                                                              Scott Schade  1 лет назад

                                                                                              love ray allen sticking it to the gm/team who deserved to pay him fair market value ...he should never have taken a pay cut or not gotten the raise he deserved ...goodbye

                                                                                              • rob19ny
                                                                                                rob19ny  1 лет назад

                                                                                                Ray did the biggest eurostep during that "Who were the Celtics rivals during that time?"

                                                                                                • Cortez Fernandez
                                                                                                  Cortez Fernandez  1 лет назад

                                                                                                  Steven is an idiot! Why is he so loud? Has he been drinking?